Training and match couple in .22?

[breadfan]

I see cheaper cartridges for training as a good option.

So I like the labeling principle based on quality presented in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7nH1BBUSp4

With this in mind, you don't have to think much about difference in POI or feedback.
Nice to know that this exists for Eley and Lapua.

Can you please let me know if you can think of a good combination?

Cartridges with minimal differences in specification (both at same speed at least for example) are also very welcome to know about.
For example, price variation due to cheaper machines, place of manufacturing, bigger margins, the composition of the lead, copper or grease/oil.

[Gwhite]

Unless you are shooting at a VERY high level, and something like 50 meter free pistol, you will probably not notice the difference when shooting pistol. Your wobble is MUCH larger than the accuracy limitations of the ammo. Rifle is very different.

Also, most velocity specs on .22 ammo are in a rifle barrel, and are meaningless if you shoot pistol, unless it is specifically pistol ammunition. You can shoot relatively inexpensive ammunition for practice AND matches until you get very proficient. If shooting more expensive ammo in matches makes you feel better, that's fine too, but don't fool yourself that it will magically make your scores go up.

[breadfan]

No, I don't expect magic. Just looking for potentially good options to pick one out.

For pistol shooting the cartridge is less important. Perhaps because of that that options are a bit blurred.

Assuming it probably does not matter is not something that fits in the context of trying to do best I think.
I see advantage in just using one cartridge.

But I see more advantage in shooting with cheap(er) cartridge for training.
And go for safe and pay more for quality in matches.

I think this is a great example (with not even an extreme difference in price):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-_pxtRVdbg&t=812s

While shooting costs money, trying to get the best out of it (putting very much money and time in it).
Investing in above mediocre cartridges only for matches does not hurt my conscience.

Thanks a lot for the feedback.
Suggestions for a good combi for training and matches with somehow similar characteristics are still welcome.

[Gwhite]

A lot depends on what kind of shooting your are doing, and with what equipment. Free pistol is very different from Sport, Rapid or Standard Pistol.

You can go out and spend $50 a box on the "best" ammo out there, but if it won't cycle your semi-auto reliably, it's worthless. I have had expensive ammo that fouls the chamber of my free pistol to the point where I have to stop a couple times mid-match to brush out my chamber. No thanks...

"Accuracy" is actually one of the last things I worry about with ammo. Almost any good brand of modern ammo will shoot well enough that I don't worry about "practice" vs "match".

Other things to deal with when selecting .22 rimfire ammunition: Some ammo has a thin hard wax lubricant that makes it easy to handle cleanly. Other ammo has heavy grease (Russian ammo is the worst...), and you need to bring a towel to the firing line to keep the grease from getting on everything. The grease also accumulates in the pistol, and requires cleaning more often, as does ammo that burns dirtier (or less completely) than others. Some brands tend to have more lot-to-lot variation, and you have to be concerned every time you buy a new batch as to whether it's going to work well or not. The priming in some brands isn't as reliable as others. If they don't replace their brass forming dies often enough, I've run into ammo that was fine for a while, and the next batch was so oversized it wouldn't chamber in free pistols.

Over the course of shooting competitively for about 55 years, I have abandoned most US made ammunition (Remington, Federal, CCI, Winchester) due to problems that come and go. I've found Aguila ammunition to be inexpensive, accurate in all my pistols, and exceedingly reliable. The only exception is my free pistol. Despite the handling issues with the greasy lubricant, Norma TAC-22 allows me to get through a full match without cleaning my chamber. It is also relatively inexpensive. I've shot various grades of RWS, Eley, Lapua, SK, etc., and for the most part they work fine, but I can get identical performance from Aguila for a lot less money.

Everyone seems to think Eley is the "gold standard". Maybe if you buy nothing but Tenex, but I can't afford that. I know lots of people in recent years that have had issues with their lower grades. I had a batch of "Target" a while back where they had misadjusted their crimping dies. The result was fine brass shavings all over the inside of my pistol. I sent them photos, and they didn't even apologize. The response I got was basically "Yeah, that can happen."

[breadfan]

The shooting I do at the moment is only with a semi automatic sport pistol. I have ambition for free pistol in the future, although that's too far for me for playing a role in cartridge choice at this moment.

I bought 2 boxes of Tenex (with 50pcs) almost a year ago and those are still in the closet.
CCI does not go with my pistol (there are way too much jams at cartridge ejection).
But, I have shot a lot of RWS and SK.

Dirt is not really an issue for me. I think I could easily go over 1200 rounds without problems with my pistol shooting SK Pistol Match or RWS Pistol Match.
If price would not be an issue, the RWS Pistol Match would be my reference point for traning and matches.
I would like to shoot my trainings cheaper than with RWS Pistol Match.
I've seen a lot of misfires with Aguila from neighbours at the shooting range. Probably it has more to do with the revolvers and pistols from the clubs, but the lower price does not motivate me enough.

When it comes to potential training and match combinations I can think of (only none specific pistol line cartridges based on website info) :

RWS Club (for training) with RWS Special Match or R50 (for match)
Eley Sport (for training) with Eley Team, Match or Tenex (for match)

[Gwhite]

Between my wife's and own shooting, plus 15 years of coaching a college team that shoots a LOT of Aguila, I've only encountered 2 misfires in over 100,000 rounds. Even then, I didn't have a chance to determine if it was the pistol or the ammo. The vast majority of semi-auto misfires are caused by a dirty chamber:

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[KZMNT]

If you find ammo that works reliably with your pistol, you're better off using that than mixing brands and risking a failure during a match. When you're actually in a competition, that's the last place where you want to include new or uncommon variables.

[rokada]

Semi auto rimfire guns - pistols and rifles as well - are picky about ammo. Find anything that is not dirt cheap (because then it really might be crappy, with one lot much different than another), not too powerful (not to put too much stress on the gun), works reliably and does not cost an arm and a leg.
Do not be overly afraid of the amount of grease. If you' believe it really may affect reliablity, it's usually easy to wash (or just wipe) it off before shooting. If this ammo is cheap enough and works for you, it's probably worth the hassle.