Looks like Rapidfire stays in the Olympics 2028 LA with minor changes.
Final will increase from 6 to 8.
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https://www.issf-sports.org/news/4610
Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
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Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
sad :(
Airpistol: Feinwerkbau P8X
STP: Pardini SP
CFP: Pardini HP
Freepistol: TOZ-35
PPC: CZ Shadow 2
PCC: Nova Modul CTS9
BR50: CZ 457 LRP
STP: Pardini SP
CFP: Pardini HP
Freepistol: TOZ-35
PPC: CZ Shadow 2
PCC: Nova Modul CTS9
BR50: CZ 457 LRP
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Peter Lovett
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Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
Good news. Be interesting to see how they organise 8 instead of 6. Does it mean that there will have to be 4 sets of targets instead of 3? It seems simple to increase the number of finalists but under the current ISSF rules it will require quite extensive logistical changes.
Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
It could reduce it to 2 bays. it depends on the final format they will decide.
I can see 2 bays and athletes taking their position for their shot then going back and so on (like long jump for example).
spectators could see body language etc ..
I can see 2 bays and athletes taking their position for their shot then going back and so on (like long jump for example).
spectators could see body language etc ..
Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
Although I think that Sport Pistol would be better to develop new shooters, specially at club level, Rapid Fire is WAY more TV friendly.
And that matters a lot for the sport.
I think the new final would require 4 sets of targets, with two shooters per five targets, as it is now.
Not a big deal for the Olympics and Word Cups, but a real pain for club matches...
And that matters a lot for the sport.
I think the new final would require 4 sets of targets, with two shooters per five targets, as it is now.
Not a big deal for the Olympics and Word Cups, but a real pain for club matches...
Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
Really? I strongly disagree with this mindset of making decision for the entire sport based on the like 15 minutes of coverage this gets every four years... in the summary segment. Even with the social media boost at the last Olympics every non-shooting person I know knew the memes but hadn't watched any of the actual competitions. Whether they see RFP, the 25m Womens or 10m final doesn't make any difference in interest as far as I can tell.
Realistically the only ones watching this are people that already care for the sport... and those don't really identify with RFP since it's such an outlier no one casually participates in.
I'm pretty sure if I ran a poll in my club "why did you get into target shooting?" then "I saw it on TV/Olympics" would come up like once among our most recent new members and zero times for any of the long timers. And a solid zero would mention RFP in any form.
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Peter Lovett
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Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
I strongly disagree. Rapid fire is more than the Olympics as it is a discipline at all the ISSF events, coverage of which is available on YouTube. I shoot rapid fire at the two clubs of which I am a member. Yes, at one of them it is certainly in the minority but at the other there is a strong following.Really? I strongly disagree with this mindset of making decision for the entire sport based on the like 15 minutes of coverage this gets every four years. Even with the social media boost at the last Olympics everyone non-shooting person I know knew the memes but hadn't watched any of the actual competitions.
Realistically the only ones watching this are people that already care for the sport... and those don't really identify with RFP since it's such an outlier no one casually participates in.
May I suggest respectfully that most of the opposition to rapid fire I have read on this forum have come from US based shooters. There is more to ISSF shooting than the US, even if they are to conduct the next Olympic Games.
Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
I'm in Switzerland where every other village has a RFP capable 25m range. Yet participation is so low that we pretty much autoqualify for national championships just by showing up. So I'm basing this on this observation that somehow in the entire country (which had Olympic medalists in this event in the past) there are less people putting effort into RFP than there are sports pistol shooters just in our club alone.
Edit: I should also clarify that the main thing I disagree with is this notion that "RFP is more interesting for the audience". I have seen nothing to indicate that in practice... To outsiders RFP is just as exotic as all our other ISSF events. At the Paris Olympics the "general public" was just tunnelvisioning on Yusuf having a cool stance and other shooters using funny equipment. Meanwhile people that are hobbyists in the sport themselves usually care more about who is competing than how often per second a trigger is pulled.
Also attractiveness to audiences just doesn't matter in my opinion. This is a great sport to participate in but even most participants don't bother actively watching it unless someone they have an immediate connection to is competing. That is why it doesn't make sense to make rules based on the tiny amount of exposure we get once every four years when any of this gets televised.
So my big disagreement is really with the notion that decisions about the sport should be made based on what someone thinks is attractive to an imaginary audience. It's a sport about moving as little as possible until magic numbers show up on a screen. It's a lost cause from a viewer perspective. And ticking over by a couple of degrees between shots in quick succession doesn't really save that.
Edit: I should also clarify that the main thing I disagree with is this notion that "RFP is more interesting for the audience". I have seen nothing to indicate that in practice... To outsiders RFP is just as exotic as all our other ISSF events. At the Paris Olympics the "general public" was just tunnelvisioning on Yusuf having a cool stance and other shooters using funny equipment. Meanwhile people that are hobbyists in the sport themselves usually care more about who is competing than how often per second a trigger is pulled.
Also attractiveness to audiences just doesn't matter in my opinion. This is a great sport to participate in but even most participants don't bother actively watching it unless someone they have an immediate connection to is competing. That is why it doesn't make sense to make rules based on the tiny amount of exposure we get once every four years when any of this gets televised.
So my big disagreement is really with the notion that decisions about the sport should be made based on what someone thinks is attractive to an imaginary audience. It's a sport about moving as little as possible until magic numbers show up on a screen. It's a lost cause from a viewer perspective. And ticking over by a couple of degrees between shots in quick succession doesn't really save that.
Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
I still regret the disappearance of 50m Free Pistol. It was a real sport discipline, no connection at all with 'defense'. Men and women could participate in the same ranking. Cfr. Grippy's comment: also in our club RFP is practiced very little though all equipment is available.
Re: Olympic Rapidfire 2028 LA
Grippy,
The only thing we disagree is the importance of being a TV friendly sport.
In my opinion this is the best way we can dissociate from the violence associated with guns. And we should do everything we can to show it.
While this may not be as relevant in the USA or Switzerland, because of your specific cases, it pretty much is in every other country in the world.
The Olympics, is the only reason some countries even allow some guns in the first place. Specially pistols.
I would argue that without it, we would have a harder time with this sport, and probably even not being able to shoot at all.
But this is another topic...
Unfortunately, RF is also pretty much dead in Portugal as well. We have the facilities, but not the shooters...
My opinion is that Sport Pistol would be a better alternative.
It is more beginner friendly, more club friendly, and at higher levels, it still maintains a moving aspect for TV.
And it's already in the Olympics!!
It doesn't make sense that men shot one discipline while women shot another... it's not in keeping with modern times... ;)
Anyway, until 2028 we will have RF, but I suspect that we will have this conversation again after LA...
rmca
The only thing we disagree is the importance of being a TV friendly sport.
In my opinion this is the best way we can dissociate from the violence associated with guns. And we should do everything we can to show it.
While this may not be as relevant in the USA or Switzerland, because of your specific cases, it pretty much is in every other country in the world.
The Olympics, is the only reason some countries even allow some guns in the first place. Specially pistols.
I would argue that without it, we would have a harder time with this sport, and probably even not being able to shoot at all.
But this is another topic...
Unfortunately, RF is also pretty much dead in Portugal as well. We have the facilities, but not the shooters...
My opinion is that Sport Pistol would be a better alternative.
It is more beginner friendly, more club friendly, and at higher levels, it still maintains a moving aspect for TV.
And it's already in the Olympics!!
It doesn't make sense that men shot one discipline while women shot another... it's not in keeping with modern times... ;)
Anyway, until 2028 we will have RF, but I suspect that we will have this conversation again after LA...
rmca